August 25-26, 1969 - Shea End

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Anonymous said…
MS Burb. I tried to join other site to talk there but no luck as moderators don't seem to clear new members. Can you figure out why
1)Tex book clearly says only 3 knives. Why has he troubled to mention it.
2) Linda does not admit going in house, but Susan says she did
3) Susan says after losing her first knife (supposedly used by then on someones thigh in a struggle yet found with no blood on) Linda "apparently" (careful word choice) gave her her one. That makes 4 knives. Is it that this more active role would have made immunity and the pure image not wash for Linda, so the Prosecutor allowed perjury and Tex is expected to back it up. But Susan accidentally or knowingly put her foot in it, by trying to be truthful as possible in her book. Could Tex not have known Linda had a knife. Or did Susan not get a knife after losing the first one at all, but only say that as she needed to make out she somehow killed Sharon. From fear of the family getting to her or her son before the death penalty occurred or life sentence was up - or from a desire to appear more active to please Manson. Things aren't adding up. A friend knows Linda but says she's zip lipped.
This new site has good analysis.
www.freesusanatkins.net
CYA - off to sign the Parole Susan Atkins Petition.
B.J. Thompson said…
Hello, Anon...

I am truly sorry...:(

Somehow I was not informed of your Comment on this page, so have just discovered your post...will endeavour to answer your questions now regardless...

1) Don't put so much weight in semantics, Anon...Tex was probably referring to the THREE Buck knives, not including his bayonet...;

2) No, Linda does not admit entering the house but I do not see how that's possible because we know that Susan's original knife had NO blood on it whatsoever and we know Susan got into a struggle with Voytek and stabbed him...

Now, unless Tex or Katie handed over their knives to Susan, which is highly doubtful as both of those killers were busy doing in Voytek and Gibby respectively, as well, Susan had to have used another knife to stab Voytek in the chins four times, which, of course, only leaves Linda's knife.

Susan would NOT have had time to leave that living room to obtain Linda's knife outside of the house as she fell into that struggle with Voytek almost immediately after Tex ordered her to stab him...;

3) Four knives is what WAS taken to Cielo, yes, three Bucks and one bayonet, 4.

The admission or not by Linda that she entered that living room would NOT have made immunity void as she still did not do the killing and readily admits to handing over her knife to Sadie. Immunity can and has been given to confessed killers and remember, WAS going to be given to Sadie and the DA knew she had killed by her own confession.

For me, I think, Linda just could never bring herself to remember what she saw in that living room that night, or, to admit to anyone that she was that close to the killing and still didn't try to stop it.

And no, Susan would have had to obtain another knife as she most definitely was the one who stabbed Voytek in the chins, even if you prefer to disbelieve her admission of stabbing Sharon.

Susan most definitely embellished her story for TWO reasons...

1) She craved attention, had always done, and she knew the more she ampted up the story, the more attention she received from all and sundry;

2) She most definitely DID crave Manson's approval, before the killings most assuredly, but also after her confession, because she was so desperate to get back into the fold, not to protect her son, for she had no overt empathetic thoughts back then whatsoever (and only played at having empathy in later years, for sociopaths cannot genuinely empathize), but because she feared being an outcast after the trial, in The Family, having a definite belief that they would all be freed and live as One once more.

Things completely add up if you take what is known and then add what must be logical to the known...and have no political agenda either way...that last part, obviously, very difficult for some to abide by...

L to R: Charles Manson - Charles "Tex" Watson - Bobby Beausoleil - Bruce Davis - Susan Atkins - Patricia Krenwinkel - Leslie van Houten