tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post255930936221564540..comments2024-01-08T04:30:01.566-07:00Comments on 2nd Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog: Leno LaBianca’s “Inaction Reaction”…B.J. Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-56203055953137547242010-04-07T15:05:53.386-06:002010-04-07T15:05:53.386-06:00Pristash, all bright-eyed and bushy tailed today, ...Pristash, all bright-eyed and bushy tailed today, huh? (wink, wink)...<br /><br />We ONLY have Tex and Dean's word for Dean living in the GH. Nobody has anyone's word that Dean lived in the Main House, and because Altobelli was in Europe for some of this time, even he probably had no idea who was living where on that property, I suspect, save for Will and Terry on the lease.<br /><br />Reinforces my belief that Cielo WAS an Open House to all and sundry, unfortunately.<br /><br />Okay, I'll bite "cased" how and why? To see if indeed there would be enough women up there to make it extra "fun" when this supposed drug deal went down badly???<br /><br />You're making me kinda want to chuckle here Pristash because you're reaching...and you KNOW you are.<br /><br />The bike and truck delivery guys WERE checked out by LAPD, unless now you've got the LAPD in on this scenario too...smells of a JFK conspiracy story #42,000...<br /><br />Pristash, NOBODY associated with any drug deals would have needed to "case" this joint as anyone who was associated with V in drugs had already been up to Cielo/attended/crashed parties there as well. That property was so well known, Helen Keller could have done a creepy-crawl and never bumped into a goddamned thing!<br /><br />People, including you Pristash keep hounding me for documents, and rightfully so, but I'm turning the tables on you...provide me with documentation that ANY of these hair-brained schemes of yours could actually have taken place...then you and I can swap documents and apologies...okee dokee?B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-71293196060984982842010-04-07T09:22:26.397-06:002010-04-07T09:22:26.397-06:00Cased perhaps by Joel Rostau the afternoon of the ...Cased perhaps by Joel Rostau the afternoon of the murders? By the bike delivery man? By the gardners?<br /><br />And when did Sadie and Gypsy go swimming there? I've heard that alot but have never seen documentation. So too with Dean living at Cielo...and there is at least one person around who claims Dean lived in the main house, not the guest house.<br />The Wells book addresses some of this, but he doesn't document his sources very well either, but his scenario is at least plausible...that in 1968 when the Family was living at Dennis Wilson's, they hade to get Dean out of there because he was such an embarrasmment, and so arrangements were made for him to live in the Cielo Drive guest house...and this would comincide with Melcher living there too.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-82284307425640400552010-04-06T22:22:47.171-06:002010-04-06T22:22:47.171-06:00Cielo - no more "cased" then when Tex ha...Cielo - no more "cased" then when Tex had been up there a minimum of four times for innocent reasons.<br /><br />No more "cased" then when Charlie had gone up there in search of Terry/Rudy in March.<br /><br />No more "cased" then when BOTH Tex and Charlie had been up there when Dean had the GH for partying, etc.<br /><br />No more "cased" then when Sadie and Gypsy drove up there with Dennis' car for an afternoon swim.<br /><br />Cielo, sadly, had an Open Door policy well before Roman and Sharon came on board and that was enough reason for that property to be assaulted over another.<br /><br />Evidence of said was the tsunami of "gated communities" that rose after TLB in L.A. and SoCal in general.<br /><br />Too many people of questionable repute knew that location but none of them, to date, have had direct evidence to be implicated in these murders BUT The Family.B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-59625554489066721572010-04-06T19:46:45.007-06:002010-04-06T19:46:45.007-06:00Not Waverly...Cielo Drive...Not Waverly...Cielo Drive...starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-13706089966880453692010-04-06T09:32:55.119-06:002010-04-06T09:32:55.119-06:003301 Waverly cased by The Family beforehand? Nope....3301 Waverly cased by The Family beforehand? Nope. Not a chance. Sorry Pristash...B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-21724894702490487252010-04-05T14:50:40.070-06:002010-04-05T14:50:40.070-06:00Pristash, I don't buy this scenario one bit. W...Pristash, I don't buy this scenario one bit. Why? Because when Tex was on that property, Altobelli hadn't hired an in-house caretaker so Tex wouldn't have thought about it one way or the other. All Tex would have known was that gardeners came and went from that property during the day. Period.<br /><br />See how conjecture just effs-up the facts?!<br /><br />Tex was so high on Speed Pritash that he, by his own admission, couldn't keep a linear thought in his head, so when he promptly told Katie to investigate the GH, he then put that thought out of his mind. And when Katie found no one, she didn't bother to mention the GH to anyone of the killers afterwards. Hence, the GH was just glossed over by the entire group.<br /><br />The person who has made up this scenario is not following the thought patterns of the killers that night. He is transposing his lucid reasoning on to Tex, and that just isn't possible.<br /><br />Tex knew that Cielo had visitors all the time so all he would have thought about SP driving to the gate was that this was another visitor, and nothing else.B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-18051765527654300192010-04-05T06:50:54.976-06:002010-04-05T06:50:54.976-06:00Steve ParentSteve Parentstarshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-81265350534905277872010-04-02T14:02:41.967-06:002010-04-02T14:02:41.967-06:00Yes, Christopher, and it comes from parole testimo...Yes, Christopher, and it comes from parole testimony from Sadie herself...do NOT ask me which hearing as I've not got that memorized. <br /><br />IF I can relocate it again, I'll post it here, okay. I should start cataloguing info 'cause people want to know (understandably) the source. I HAVE catalogued HS but not the hearings. Like I said, will post it here as soon as I can relocate it.<br /><br />Who is "SP"?B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-40495611011701558482010-04-02T09:25:01.424-06:002010-04-02T09:25:01.424-06:00the dog Christopher peeked in? When? Where did t...the dog Christopher peeked in? When? Where did this come from?<br /><br />Oh, and I heard somewhere, and I think it makes sense, that Tex thought SP was the caretaker and that's why they didn't worry so much about the guest house...starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-19621031536977199192010-04-01T10:43:19.393-06:002010-04-01T10:43:19.393-06:00That's what I'm trying to say, Pristash......That's what I'm trying to say, Pristash...the dogs DID go crazy at Tate!!!<br /><br />It all began when Steve was STILL ALIVE with Will. The one dog, don't know which one, started barking while the two guys were chatting and Will tried to shush him up. That shows you how close Steve's visit was to the killers arriving!<br /><br />The dogs continued to bark even after Steve left, and it is MY belief that this may have been the impetus for Will to chose to take a peek out of that closet window, possibly hearing/seeing more than even his conscious mind today will allow him to remember; hence, the need for hypnosis.<br /><br />Terrapin at charliemanson.com is buying into the whole Charlie-is-special-with-animals-crap, that enabled him to keep the LaBianca dogs quiet over the Tate dogs...but I am not ready to buy that swampland in Florida just yet!<br /><br />And do NOT forget that the Weinmaraner peeked in the living room of the main house while Sadie was still inside that room, and it darted away...scared...!<br /><br />There's something freaky going on in Freakyville, and despite people telling me this is a useless question, I LIVE to bang my head up against cement walls...it helps with the cranial circulation! (tee hee)B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-84658040065928339282010-04-01T10:31:48.743-06:002010-04-01T10:31:48.743-06:00Yeah, mu dog would probably be happy to see anybod...Yeah, mu dog would probably be happy to see anybody come in, such a good natured one he is...<br /><br />But what about about the dogs at Tate too...with gunshots going off? I've never quite understood how with the screaming and such that all of the dogs at Cielo wouldn't have been going crazy.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-4623994943360083512010-03-31T22:30:12.194-06:002010-03-31T22:30:12.194-06:001) They walked thru the East - side door, not the ...1) They walked thru the East - side door, not the back;<br />2)the dogs would bark at her as she just walked up the driveway...not even in the house yet;<br />3) Yes, bitch is the right term...dogs, MsBurb, whatever (wink, wink)B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-82515285609846095142010-03-31T22:25:50.374-06:002010-03-31T22:25:50.374-06:00Plus, didn't Tex and CM just walk right in thr...Plus, didn't Tex and CM just walk right in through the back door?<br /><br />Usually when people walk right in my house, the first instinct of my pups is to get all happy that someone is there. There's usually no barking....that is reserved for the bastards that are fool enough to use the sidewalk in front of the house.<br /><br />If they barked at Ruth Sivik, it's probably because she wasn't gettin' their food fast enough.<br /><br />I know I bark like a bitch when I don't get fed fast enough.<br /><br />(What?,...it's a proper term, isn't it?)<br /><br />DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-16420654471279851102010-03-31T13:41:41.359-06:002010-03-31T13:41:41.359-06:00Thank-you my dear Pristash...
Funny you should as...Thank-you my dear Pristash...<br /><br />Funny you should ask that Q as I was going to post said on the forums today to get some brainstorming going on...<br /><br />There IS something odd about the LaB dogs, as they had noooo problem barking at Ruth Sivik when she came to feed them...honestly, all I can come up with at the moment is the possibility that the dogs had become used to having Leo Posella break into the house when he lived with his mom next door. The dogs took this break-in by a man as Leo and just licked Charlie like he was the next door neighbour.<br /><br />I've wondered if on this night Tex and Charlie had prepared for dogs (because Tex would have heard the GH dogs barking at Cielo)and had meat ready for them as an invitation card??? Yes, no evidence, just a theory.<br /><br />Tex has fudged with his testimony too in the past so that didn't "seal the deal" for me necessarily but it does corroborate Charlie's testimony...again Manson refusing to tell anything but the truth...B.J. Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327228353707623497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7720104317349404654.post-67596408804244507282010-03-31T10:30:08.871-06:002010-03-31T10:30:08.871-06:00I pretty much agree. Good post! LK's testimon...I pretty much agree. Good post! LK's testimony aside, Tex admits to going in with CM, so I'm sure that sealed the deal.<br /><br />Kind of like at Tate, all the men were subdued rather quickly, except WG, of course...<br /><br />And what was the deal with the dogs?starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.com